How to help NEW clients when it comes to asking supplement questions like: How much Vitamin D should I be taking?

PODCAST Transcript: Today I am sharing a forum question from the i-we.co foundation education course: Finding Point A.It’s a course on how to figure out if your clients are providing themselves with the ESSENTIALS their cells need when it comes to CELL’f Care and their Wellness.

Doing the Gather and exploratory work with clients is what enables us to help them Provide them’cell’ves with the ESSENTIAL nutrients specific to them. It also gives the direct simplified version of how to explain to the clients the WHY behind each, etc.. work

So in this forum a wellness professional was posting the question: My client wants to know how much Vitamin D to take? And my answer was…it depends on the bio-individual. And here is how to help your client understand why this is your answer….


The practitioner and I then talked about the question in depth at her monthly practitioner session.

At the end of this session, she told me the information we covered clarified a lot.

Her ah-ha moments motivated me to place the information she found valuable into this podcast for everyone.

This is a POST of the podcast and transcript as well of: Build the Wellness Business You WANT: Episode IWPP303

Common practice of: supplementing. It’s a good thing but first help your client Identify Missing ESSENTIALS.

When we began discussing her question I realized how many wellness professionals; especially those interested in or trained in the N. Nutrition field look to educate clients on using supplementation early on.

They see it as a logical way to help clients get going toward the wellness they want.

I know I did too. That is until I realized it was not uncovering my true bio-individual wellness picture or that of my clients by doing so early on.

I explained- first, before supplementation we want to discover if the micronutrient is in fact:

  • – missing, low or
  • – if there is a reason for increased amounts.

Let me back track and share that in the course forum the specific question posted was:

“Does taking a vitamin D supplement carry a risk of too much vitamin D build up in the liver?”

Now when I saw it on the forum I did not immediately respond.

The reason I hesitated was because I was surprised about the question.

Here is why:

In i-we.co Foundation Course: Finding Point A we focus on Identifying the missing Macro nutrients that the Cell is dependent on for its:

1. Existence

2. Function and

3. S.M.I.L.E..







As integrative professionals we help clients figure out:

-which of the ESSENTIAL M.E.N. (Motion, Emotion, Nutrition) in their lives are missing.


how they (specifically) can incorporate the missing ESSENTIALS (M.E.N) into their daily lives.

The ones that will bio-individually work for them because that is what will promote Self( CELLf) Care.

The CELL is our focus because

Wellness is a by product or result of Self Care.
Self Care is = to the sum of CELL’f Care.

To figure out the bio-individuals ESSENTIALS we:

1. Spend time together with them Gathering all we can over a few sessions (Intake process +) and then use the

2. Identify Here Process to help point us to the M.E.N. that currently exist in their lives (positive and negative) and those missing.

3. Once the M.E.N. are Identified as either missing or P. Provided the work changes from the Gather and Identify Here process to focusing on the:

4. HOW TO of P. PROVIDING their missing ESSENTIALS.

This is the foundation of the WELLNESS clients WANT.

Hence the name of the i-we.co foundation education courses.

Self Care is = to the sum of CELL’f Care.

Our Wellness is dependent on how we help our clients care for themCELLves.

The question:

“Does taking a vitamin D supplement carry a risk of too much vitamin D build up in the liver?”

This Specific Nutrition Question is a Vitamin Question.

A vitamin is a focus of Micronutrients;-).

Micro nutrients are important. Once we KNOW the MACRO Nutrients of our clients we can then delve into the important Micro nutrients.

But doing this before we incorporate the Macro ESSENTIALS means we are adding something to the body before we know if there is a true need for it.

Understanding micro nutrients value, and figuring out if they are in excess or missing is a big part of the N. Nutrition in the M.E.N..

But that exploration comes after a client has incorporated all missing MACRO Nutrient ESSENTIALS the CELL is dependent on.

I’d like to point out this question is also an Organ question verses a cellular question.

OUR FOUNDATION Steps with new clients, focuses first on FINDING Their POINT A.


  • INCORPORATING them in a way that bio-individually helps each client.

We do this because:

  • Our Organs are made up of tissues
  • Our Tissues are made up of cells.

If the body has excellent cellular health then the tissues that make up the organ mean it is more likely to function more effectively than a liver that is suffering from lack of Self Care and has a supplement to process it may not need.

SUPPLEMENTS ARE AWESOME! I USE THEM EVERY DAY! But I use the ones my body bio-individually needs with all my ESSENTIALS identified.

Micro Nutrients, Organ signals this is in the Point A to Point B Process. (Level 2 + i-we.co courses where the N. Nutrition focus is Optimized. 😉

I point out in the i-we.co foundation education course that first we aim to P. Provide then we aim to O. Optimize CELL’f Care after.

We certainly do not need to be through a level 2+ course to answer the question or help the client.

I’d also like to point out having done the other courses would not change your answer or process anyway. It may add to the detailed examples but not the bottom line that:

There is no short cut if a client WANTS WELLNESS.
We first use the:

Gather process

Identify Here process and

Finding Point A process

to ultimately help, every single client attain the WELLNESS they WANT.

Our first goal is to see what the body status is when all the missing ESSENTIALS are provided.
Many ‘issues’ especially chronic ones can fall away as the ESSENTIALS the Cells need for their S.M.I.L.E. Structure, Machinery, Instruction and Lotsa Energy are incorporated.

The Key in Wellness is finding the missing ESSENTIALS. Seek out versions that work for the client, their lives, their goals and implement them on regular basis.

Then after that, it is the time to discover the need for extra of a specific Nutrient such as D.

First, help the client identify if the Macronutrients and ESSENTIAL M.E.N. can provide the CELL with what it needs.

In the N. Nutrition portion of Finding Point A course we cover the ESSENTIAL Macronutrient Nutrition the CELL needs.

These Macronutrients do provide your client with the micronutrients (i.e. vitamins and minerals).

Which Macro nutrients clients consume regularly determines the micro nutrients their body is receiving.

SO instead of first jumping to~

Resist the pressure, the expectation; especially from clients to rush into supplementation.

Help them see discovering ‘Their’ ESSENTIALS status is the most beneficial way to answer that question for their bio-individual body…

I use to hear it all the time:

“Oh, I thought you could just tell me what to take and how much to fix this or that.”

I would explain that it ends up being ineffective answering such micronutrient questions with yes, no or maybe so; before we add MACRO nutrient ESSENTIALS.

We don’t know if the supplementation is needed. Or if the Macro nutrients they choose will end up supplying the micronutrient they want to know about;-).

The Nutrition data tool we use in the Module for levels of specific

Macronutrients like the ESSENTIAL fats and Omega 3, 6 ratio; Complete amino acids… can help you or your client detail which the Macro nutrients are Provided to the body and offer insight to the Micronutrients . SO if you really want to explore this immediately it is a good resource and it is FREE.

What we want to keep in mind is that since our Self-Care is the result of our CELL’f Care we should always look to the sum of our CELL’f Care first.

To know how to answer if vitamin D supplements will build up in the liver, we have to know:

  • ‘who’ is taking the supplement.
  • the MACRO Nutrient status of their CELL’f Care to help them explore what Vitamin D would mean to them.

Identifying the missing Motion, Emotion, Nutrition ESSENTIALS is how we do that.

It is what we do in Identify Here. It is how we improve the results a client will experience.

It is the way to discovering their path to wellness.

What is necessary for attaining WELLNESS is the individualization.

Knowing which of the ESSENTIALS; the M.E.N. client presently Provides their Cells with.

Again all ESSENTIALS are needed to support the CELL’s S.M.I.L.E. (Structure, Machinery, Instruction and Lotsa Energy).

What those ESSENTIALS are and how they are incorporated are all dependent on the client.

This is their CELL’f Care.

So to answer the question:

“Does taking a vitamin D supplement carry a risk of too much vitamin D build up in the liver?”
we first:

  • Gather;
  • Identify Here,
  • Add Missing ESSENTIALS to Find clients POINT A.

This is always the initial work with each and every client.

The foundation education work of MACRO-nutrient discovery is relevant to answering this question.

Below are examples of how I answered such questions. It also supports the value of the work the client is doing in Identifying ‘Their’ Here and Finding Point A with you the wellness professional.

{Client name}, of the M.E.N. your life, let’s focus today on N. Nutrition because your question stems from Nutrition.

{Client name}, of the M.E.N. your life, let’s focus today on N. Nutrition because your question stems from Nutrition.

“Does taking a vitamin D supplement carry a risk of too much vitamin D build up in the liver?”
My answer to you is: It depends. It depends on you the bio-individual.

It depends on the MACRO Nutrients you consume at the time of taking a supplement.

  • For instance: Is there good fat available for this fat soluble vitamin to dissolve and be used by YOUR body?

It also depends on:

  • the MACRO nutrients and
  • their ratios you consume on a regular basis. (For instance Vitamin K).
  • It depends on other supplements you are taking.
  • It depends on your bodies use of the vitamin D as well as the other vitamins.
  • It depends on where you live.
  • It depends on the time you spend in the sun with your skin exposed to the sun without sunscreen use.
  • It depends on autoimmune issues of the gut which may interfere with fat absorption…..
  • It depends on these and many things.

This is why we first use the Gather, Identify Here and the Finding Point A processes together.

They help narrow our focus on HOW TO P. Provide the ESSENTIALS that work for YOU.

Then we can place focus on how the MICOR nutrient vitamin D may play a role in your wellness.

Like if your ESSENTIALS are Providing recommended Vitamin D yet

  • your body signals point to the need for more Vitamin D
  • you have blood test showing below rec. levels.

We explore why those essentials that Provide the Vitamin D are not available for your cells.

We explore:

  • – Are you absorbing your Macro Nutrients that provide the Micronutrients?
  • -Which body signals lead us to believe this one vitamin should have supplementation?….

{Client name}, the question is a good example of why work to Gather what you already know about your self-care matters.

  • Why Identify YOUR Here is so important.
  • How knowing which ESSENTIALS your CELL has and doesn’t have can help design your best path toward Finding your Point A.

YOUR CELL, when it has what it needs:

the ESSENTIALS to S.M.I.L.E. it often needs less supplementation.

Or it can point to extras that you may benefit from.

The MACRO nutrients we are focused on; they actually Provide the micronutrients you are asking about.

Vitamin D is a Micronutrient.

Our real food ‘packages’; has in it; the micro nutrients in desired ratios. Not to mention other co-factors we do not know are helping.

Vitamin D, in particular, can be particularly difficult to attain from foods.

But you may be a big consumer if your local diet is high in particular fish, or liver pate’ or live in sun all year round.

So let’s find out first where your Cell’f Care stands.

Don’t get me wrong. I use vitamin D3 supplementation. It is definitely high on the list to look at when focusing on the N. Nutrition with a client.

I use supplements of vitamin D3 to support my genetic predispositions and where I live.

My amount changes seasonally. So does my family’s amount. Each of us with our individual supplement support. Dependent on our CELL’f Care and Self-discovery.

It is important to also know

sometimes ratios can be pulled out of balance by adding a single Micronutrient.

Knowing you eat foods with Vitamin D might not be enough. We want to look at how foods are prepared.

Preparation can make a difference of bio-availability or inflammation as just 2 examples.

  • Pairing certain macronutrients with others can enhance their bio-availability.

Then there are always factors to consider such as:

  • -our genetics.
  • – if our body knows how to disassemble and use the micronutrient.
  • – let’s say we are in a state of inflammation; we may need more than someone who is not inflamed. The same ‘suggested manufacturer dosage’ would mean another may be over supplemented while we would be under supplemented.
  • – Do you consume the specific Macronutrient: Carbohydrate vegetables that provide vitamin K1?
  • – Or Macronutrient Protein animal liver, for instance, fermented foods that provide K2?….
  • -Does your body efficiently use K?
  • Why understand all this?…

“There is even evidence that the safety of vitamin D is dependent on vitamin K, and that vitamin D toxicity (although very rare with the D3 form) is actually caused by vitamin K2 deficiency.1.”

So now vitamin K sounds like a good supplement especially if we are supplementing with D3!


  • Are there Liver Issues?
  • Fat absorption issues?
  • Does the person have Blood clotting issues?
  • Bleeding Issues?….

We would not want to encourage clients with a slow use of Vitamin K to consume more D, especially if on medications that Vitamin K can influence.

To better be able to explore the best answer to the question:

“Does taking a vitamin D supplement carry a risk of too much vitamin D build up in the liver?”The answer is: It depends and that is why we work together through the

  • Intake process of Gather by Eliminating the 3 Big BIG Blunders during Intake so we can attaining be sure we are using our time to focus on the very bio-individual information that will help us answer the question being asked.

That is again why

Identifying Here Process is essential when someone WANTS WELLNESS.

It enables us to Focus on Providing the ESSENTIALS Finding your clients Point A. THEN comfortably transition to the next steps

  • explore specific micronutrients that match with any symptoms that linger..

The Point A to Point B process.

First, let’s see where your Macronutrients P. PROVIDE your CELLs with the Micronutrient Vitamin D3. ;-).

Your question is about higher amounts and toxicity. That is a different question.

It is one to visit after all your ESSENTIALS are provided to your cell. It is one that maybe checking blood levels can be helpful to use as a guide determining the need above your basic supplementation.

All these factors to consider are better understood after as many ESSENTIALS as one can are incorporated into ones’ lifestyle.

There you have it that is how I answered such questions.

ANd what they lead to is a closer relationship with my client. They KNOW I have theor back, I am not peddling product. ANd when I do recommend product they KNOW I am thinking through with them the specific benefits. This helps create a life long relationship and top-nothc referrals benefitting your bottom line while Building Your Wellness Business.

Exponentially Expanding my Business Income came –Once I understood the HUGE benefits of

  • Gather,
  • Identify Here and
  • Finding Point A processes.

They were the way to truly help clients work toward their goal of attaining the WELLNESS they WANTED.

It was much easier for me to explain the :

‘the answer depends on your body’.

Granted the above podcast transcript is sprinkled with education information from Level 2(+) (+ = Above the ‘Systems Focus’ Level 2).

BUT the answers still stem from

  • first knowing the client.
  • Knowing that all M.E.N. Essentials are being P. Provided.
  • Reinforcing that for all of us who WANT WELLNESS providing the body with CELL’f Care ESSENTIALS is always FIRST.

Bridging the gap with the above-detailed examples and information that I provided meant the practitioner could walk the client through the answer at their next session in more detail.

Bringing such questions to the practitioner sessions provides you with confidence and guidance of how to help your client immediately at their next session as you continue to learn more and more about ways to use your expertise.

In this case using Nutrition expertise more effectively with clients.

The answer to the question:

“Does taking a vitamin D supplement carry a risk of too much vitamin D build up in the liver?”

is dependent on the bio-individual you are being asked by.


You are in the position to offer an educated answer explaining why:

  • The actual need of supplementation or amount is figured out after the initial focus on P. providing the ESSENTIALS the CELLS need.

When our bodies receive the ESSENTIALS that were missing the need for supplementation is eliminated or reduced.

After the initial focus of finding and P. Providing the missing ESSENTIALS.

Optimizing with Micro Nutrients like Vitamins:

  • is easier and
  • less overwhelming for clients;-)
  • AND they are more likely to really USE those they buy!

(Having your client read the transcripts of the WANT WELLNESS: CELL’f Care- one focus presentation I gave for decades is a very efficient way for them to be introduced to Self Care and help them quickly understand how your work to help them move to the WELLNESS they WANT is the best way to approach attaining the WELLNESS they WANT.

It is in Kindle and soft cover formats on Amazon. WANT WELLNESS CELL’f Care 1, 2 And 3 ESSENTIALS.

It is literally the one-focused presentation I gave for eons 😉

I hope this helps you see- even more clearly – the value of incorporating Self Care discovery processes : Sessions You get paid for as you work with your clients to:

  • Gather,
  • Identify Their Here, and
  • Finding Point A in your Wellness Businesses.

Until next time remember I believe in you whole – heartedly!



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